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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://cosmodaddy.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/doctor-who-412-spoilerama/#comment-732</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the themes I like through all of the crossovers is the fact that they are creating lots of different kinds of life - not just all &#039;time lord&#039; or &#039;human companion&#039; but a whole variety - so Rose is Badwolf - Jack is immortal - Donna is &#039;something new&#039; - Sarah Jane Smith&#039;s son is a clone (is that right?) - Owen was &#039;dead man walking&#039; - only poor Dr Jones is left out - she is just normal human. So I think that it is a running theme that RTD likes to think up new quirky ways of people being different - rather than making them all Timelords. 

The way I read it is this, with the Timlords gone, the rules of the universe are a bit looser so we get all sorts of unusual anomalies. But maybe they are all going somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the themes I like through all of the crossovers is the fact that they are creating lots of different kinds of life &#8211; not just all &#8216;time lord&#8217; or &#8216;human companion&#8217; but a whole variety &#8211; so Rose is Badwolf &#8211; Jack is immortal &#8211; Donna is &#8217;something new&#8217; &#8211; Sarah Jane Smith&#8217;s son is a clone (is that right?) &#8211; Owen was &#8216;dead man walking&#8217; &#8211; only poor Dr Jones is left out &#8211; she is just normal human. So I think that it is a running theme that RTD likes to think up new quirky ways of people being different &#8211; rather than making them all Timelords. </p>
<p>The way I read it is this, with the Timlords gone, the rules of the universe are a bit looser so we get all sorts of unusual anomalies. But maybe they are all going somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmodaddy</title>
		<link>http://cosmodaddy.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/doctor-who-412-spoilerama/#comment-731</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmodaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at it like that I suspect you&#039;re on to something. As many subplots as RTD currently has running, he &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; goes down the path of weaving them into a super-massive story where they all play a part. The Master &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; be a red herring, but there&#039;s every possibility that we&#039;re going to riff JMS&#039; grand idea for his &#039;Thor&#039; relaunch at Marvel. When the Time War ended, and the Doctor destroyed them and Gallifrey, they sent their essences out throughout the universe, which &lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt; be awakened. The Master simply ran and fob-watched himself into safety at the end of the universe, but where are the rest? Donna? Jack? Rose?

As I discussed with a friend last night, the fact that Rose was avoiding the Doctor in person and ultimately got &lt;i&gt;Donna&lt;/i&gt; to invoke &#039;Bad Wolf&#039; (which got the cloister bell to go off) is also significant and maybe connected. Why did Rose know about the universal barriers breaking down and not the Doctor? Why was she shadowing him, with the occasional transmissions to him being blocked? Has she been trying to awaken Donna all along?

For that matter why has there been this recurring theme with changing the timeline into a form without the Doctor? We don&#039;t know who was really behind the attack on Donna in &#039;Turn Left&#039; or what their purpose really was. Davros? I doubt it. Particularly if RTD really is riffing DC&#039;s Crisis on Infinite Earths&#039;, the real &#039;Darkness&#039; would have to be far more substantial. Someone along the lines of a &#039;Dark Rassilon&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at it like that I suspect you&#8217;re on to something. As many subplots as RTD currently has running, he <i>never</i> goes down the path of weaving them into a super-massive story where they all play a part. The Master <i>might</i> be a red herring, but there&#8217;s every possibility that we&#8217;re going to riff JMS&#8217; grand idea for his &#8216;Thor&#8217; relaunch at Marvel. When the Time War ended, and the Doctor destroyed them and Gallifrey, they sent their essences out throughout the universe, which <i>could</i> be awakened. The Master simply ran and fob-watched himself into safety at the end of the universe, but where are the rest? Donna? Jack? Rose?</p>
<p>As I discussed with a friend last night, the fact that Rose was avoiding the Doctor in person and ultimately got <i>Donna</i> to invoke &#8216;Bad Wolf&#8217; (which got the cloister bell to go off) is also significant and maybe connected. Why did Rose know about the universal barriers breaking down and not the Doctor? Why was she shadowing him, with the occasional transmissions to him being blocked? Has she been trying to awaken Donna all along?</p>
<p>For that matter why has there been this recurring theme with changing the timeline into a form without the Doctor? We don&#8217;t know who was really behind the attack on Donna in &#8216;Turn Left&#8217; or what their purpose really was. Davros? I doubt it. Particularly if RTD really is riffing DC&#8217;s Crisis on Infinite Earths&#8217;, the real &#8216;Darkness&#8217; would have to be far more substantial. Someone along the lines of a &#8216;Dark Rassilon&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://cosmodaddy.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/doctor-who-412-spoilerama/#comment-730</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rose absorbed the Time Vortex, Captain Jack was made near-immortal by her, Donna has been emitting strange power readings &#039;since birth&#039; - all three are with the doctor in the middle of an unexpected regeneration. I don&#039;t think that is a coincidence - not sure what will happen, but I think that Rose, Jack and Donna are all unknown quantities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rose absorbed the Time Vortex, Captain Jack was made near-immortal by her, Donna has been emitting strange power readings &#8217;since birth&#8217; &#8211; all three are with the doctor in the middle of an unexpected regeneration. I don&#8217;t think that is a coincidence &#8211; not sure what will happen, but I think that Rose, Jack and Donna are all unknown quantities.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmodaddy</title>
		<link>http://cosmodaddy.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/doctor-who-412-spoilerama/#comment-729</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmodaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes, that&#039;s very true. She did say it as past tense, but the beetle&#039;s &#039;sound&#039; from the previous week was definitely there too. I doubt it was anything other than a red herring though - I do hope not. I also hope the Master isn&#039;t there, although &#039;fixing&#039; last year&#039;s anti-climax *would* be a parting kindness of RTD, so who knows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, that&#8217;s very true. She did say it as past tense, but the beetle&#8217;s &#8217;sound&#8217; from the previous week was definitely there too. I doubt it was anything other than a red herring though &#8211; I do hope not. I also hope the Master isn&#8217;t there, although &#8216;fixing&#8217; last year&#8217;s anti-climax *would* be a parting kindness of RTD, so who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://cosmodaddy.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/doctor-who-412-spoilerama/#comment-728</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW - I would rather Donna went out in a blaze of glory than lived a life on non-consequence having had her memories of time travel wiped - what an anti-climax that would be - let her stay a hero</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW &#8211; I would rather Donna went out in a blaze of glory than lived a life on non-consequence having had her memories of time travel wiped &#8211; what an anti-climax that would be &#8211; let her stay a hero</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://cosmodaddy.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/doctor-who-412-spoilerama/#comment-727</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that Donna &#039;has&#039; something on her back - I think that the Shadow Proclamation woman said she &#039;had&#039; something on her back past tense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that Donna &#8216;has&#8217; something on her back &#8211; I think that the Shadow Proclamation woman said she &#8216;had&#8217; something on her back past tense.</p>
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		<title>By: Tsoram</title>
		<link>http://cosmodaddy.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/doctor-who-412-spoilerama/#comment-726</link>
		<dc:creator>Tsoram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just been looking at pics of the first doctor and he is wearing a ring... and it looks a better match for the one Donna has than the Master&#039;s!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just been looking at pics of the first doctor and he is wearing a ring&#8230; and it looks a better match for the one Donna has than the Master&#8217;s!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BigEnos</title>
		<link>http://cosmodaddy.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/doctor-who-412-spoilerama/#comment-720</link>
		<dc:creator>BigEnos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s worth remembering just how wily RTD is at teasing expectation, often quite subtly before confounding it. He seems to sew &#039;false hints&#039; in with the real ones to keep fans guessing. For example, from this years trailers, how many of us suspected that Miss Foster would be the Rani (given the genetics angle and shots of her waving a sonic screwdriver around) or that the unseen beetle would be a Metabelius spider? That was clearly the intention and it&#039;s great fun guessing. Another thing I like about RTD&#039;s treatment is the in-jokes. Just his episode the Doctor referred to The Dalek Invasion of Earth (moving the Earth had been tried before, a long time ago), which incidentally featured none other than Bernard Cribbins in the Peter Cushing movie version...Delicious! Anyway, mainly I&#039;m looking forward to seeing if they can satisfactorily write themselves out of the cliffhanger...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s worth remembering just how wily RTD is at teasing expectation, often quite subtly before confounding it. He seems to sew &#8216;false hints&#8217; in with the real ones to keep fans guessing. For example, from this years trailers, how many of us suspected that Miss Foster would be the Rani (given the genetics angle and shots of her waving a sonic screwdriver around) or that the unseen beetle would be a Metabelius spider? That was clearly the intention and it&#8217;s great fun guessing. Another thing I like about RTD&#8217;s treatment is the in-jokes. Just his episode the Doctor referred to The Dalek Invasion of Earth (moving the Earth had been tried before, a long time ago), which incidentally featured none other than Bernard Cribbins in the Peter Cushing movie version&#8230;Delicious! Anyway, mainly I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing if they can satisfactorily write themselves out of the cliffhanger&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cosmodaddy</title>
		<link>http://cosmodaddy.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/doctor-who-412-spoilerama/#comment-718</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmodaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ BigEnos - I know I wasn&#039;t the only person to have trouble hearing dialogue properly this episode - the production problems were a big distraction on first watching, and I probably expected &#039;...of the Daleks&#039; - you&#039;re probably right.

As far as Donna goes, the speculation I&#039;ve seen this week is starting to make sense out of her. &#039;I&#039;m just a temp&#039; &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a clue - a huge one. She&#039;ll be some form of &#039;key&#039; (like Dawn in &#039;Buffy&#039;, which RTD constantly swipes from), created by the Doctor, the Master, the Time Lords or another player for &lt;b&gt;the&lt;/b&gt; Bad Wolf scenario. It seems likely she&#039;ll sacrifice herself upon realising this to lock Davros into the Medusa Cascade, and Ten will be so outraged that he&#039;ll do what Caan did and go back and remaster &lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt; timeline to prevent her death. Jack can then wipe her mind with Torchwood technology, allowing a happy but non-superheroic future for Donna. 

What do other people think? It would join a few more dots, but not explain definitively why the &#039;Doctor-split&#039; happens. Maybe that really is for the Master&#039;s benefit, and Donna, as his creation, turns on him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ BigEnos &#8211; I know I wasn&#8217;t the only person to have trouble hearing dialogue properly this episode &#8211; the production problems were a big distraction on first watching, and I probably expected &#8216;&#8230;of the Daleks&#8217; &#8211; you&#8217;re probably right.</p>
<p>As far as Donna goes, the speculation I&#8217;ve seen this week is starting to make sense out of her. &#8216;I&#8217;m just a temp&#8217; <i>is</i> a clue &#8211; a huge one. She&#8217;ll be some form of &#8216;key&#8217; (like Dawn in &#8216;Buffy&#8217;, which RTD constantly swipes from), created by the Doctor, the Master, the Time Lords or another player for <b>the</b> Bad Wolf scenario. It seems likely she&#8217;ll sacrifice herself upon realising this to lock Davros into the Medusa Cascade, and Ten will be so outraged that he&#8217;ll do what Caan did and go back and remaster <i>his</i> timeline to prevent her death. Jack can then wipe her mind with Torchwood technology, allowing a happy but non-superheroic future for Donna. </p>
<p>What do other people think? It would join a few more dots, but not explain definitively why the &#8216;Doctor-split&#8217; happens. Maybe that really is for the Master&#8217;s benefit, and Donna, as his creation, turns on him?</p>
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		<title>By: BigEnos</title>
		<link>http://cosmodaddy.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/doctor-who-412-spoilerama/#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator>BigEnos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi cosmodaddy. Just to briefly go back to your original posting, are you really hearing that line as &quot;...Davros, lord and creator of the darkness&quot;. Because maybe my ears are playing tricks on me, but I&#039;ve listened to the line three times and I&#039;m as certain as I can be that he&#039;s saying &quot;...Davros, lord and creator of the Dalek race&quot;. Obviously his softly spoken mechanical rasp (nice job there by the way) doesn&#039;t help but anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi cosmodaddy. Just to briefly go back to your original posting, are you really hearing that line as &#8220;&#8230;Davros, lord and creator of the darkness&#8221;. Because maybe my ears are playing tricks on me, but I&#8217;ve listened to the line three times and I&#8217;m as certain as I can be that he&#8217;s saying &#8220;&#8230;Davros, lord and creator of the Dalek race&#8221;. Obviously his softly spoken mechanical rasp (nice job there by the way) doesn&#8217;t help but anyway&#8230;</p>
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